Your mind may think that it's all kind of self explanatory - but if you want me to get your point you are going to have to give a little more explanation.
You got a problem with the concept or the execution, for example.
I guess I was just stunned speechless when I read this at the complete lack of thought put into such an idea. I keep thinking that nothing the Right says anymore surprises me and then they always do.
Still waiting for something that tells me what you are talking about.
I got, with the one word comment, that you were speechless.
Now you say you're speechless because of a 'complete lack of thought'. But that still doesn't tell me anything about what you consider to be a lack of thought and why......particularly why.
The fact that you haven't gotten it sadly speaks volumes.
I don't want to live in a world of roaming militias and ordinary citizens (without training and psychological evaluations) enforcing the law...or what they think is the law. We used to have this, remember? It didn't work out very well.
Further, her complete ignorance of all the other crimes that police handle (drunk driving, shoplifting, fraud) is seriously stunning. In short, she's a fucking moron.
he fact that you haven't gotten it sadly speaks volumes.
That I don't get what you have an issue with speaks volumes? Can I fucking ask you to explain your position without a personal attack? That I don't get.....
So, where do the police actually get their authority to enforce the law?
Hmm...I get the feeling we are going down a path where I answer a bunch of questions and you offer nothing in rebuttal. I answer this one and then you respond with whether or not you agree with her statement and why. Otherwise, forget it. You don't get to use that tactic anymore. Focus specifically on what you would do differently and how it would work, offering evidence.
The police get their authority to enforce the law from us, GD. We elect officials to make the law that the police enforce. In Michele Bachmann's world, everyone would make up their own law and somehow magically protect themselves from drunken drivers with a gun.
What I'm trying to figure out, Mark, is what I asked you the FIRST time. Exactly what you have an issue with - the concept or the execution.
As you've answered with very little detail, I still don't know.
But when you say this: "everyone would make up their own law". That only brings up more questions. I really do not see anywhere in what Bachman said that would in any way make this statement accurate.
The police get their authority to enforce the law from us
Yes, and no. Their jobs are delegated by us. But one cannot delegate authority that one does not possess. So the people doing the delegating already have to possess that authority. Therefore - in concept - the people have the authority to do EXACTLY what Bachman proposes.
My source was the same as his so I will retract it once he does.
Still, true or false, it is pretty much the libertarian fantasy, no?
As you've answered with very little detail, I still don't know.
Ah, yes, another bullshit statement meant to frustrate me and cause me to write more things that you can make dickish comments about without actually offering anything of your own.
I really do not see anywhere in what Bachman said that would in any way make this statement accurate.
So how do you think such a thing would all play out?
My source was the same as his so I will retract it once he does.
So it could be a total fucking lie and you don't care? That makes sense.
Ah, yes, another bullshit statement meant to frustrate me and cause me to write more things that you can make dickish comments about without actually offering anything of your own.
Because you are the one making bullshit condescending comments without explaining what the fuck you are condescending to. If I actually knew what kind of bullshit your bullshit was referring to I could offer something of my own to counter your bullshit.
So how do you think such a thing would all play out?
Concept or execution Mark. Simple question.
But since 'playing out' seems to be a execution level comment, let's put something straight.
everyone would make up their own law
The law already exists. No need to make anything up. Among those existing laws are these things called 'citizens arrest', in which the people can arrest a person for committing a crime. Hmmmm. Imagine that.
I can assure you that I will admit error before you guys do on this one...already proven to be half truths or out and out lies.
Among those existing laws are these things called 'citizens arrest',
So, it would be up to citizens to interpret the law. I know I wouldn't want any fucking oathkeepers telling me what the law was or was not. It would be even worse for you. Imagine all of the things liberals would force you to do.
Fuck you, Markadelphi-ass. More than one of us, certainly myself, has said that a lot of that anti-Obama graphic is incorrect. And even though his college reccords aren't "sealed" by court order, they've certainly not been made public, either, so they're effectively sealed by Obama. It's not that big a deal to me, though it's slightly unusual in recent election cycles. When someone's touted as real brainiac by his supporters, I generally want to see something to back it up. Especially when we heard endlessly about what a dunce G.W. was, especially when compared to Gore and Kerry, and then that turned out to be, umm, incorrect would the polite word. None of them did that well in school (but at least Bush didn't flunk out of divinity school).
The Bachmann "quote" is a fabrication from a fucking parody site. Maybe we could quote stuff from an Onion article (without sourcing it) and then demand you prove it didn't happen. While we insist that maybe it did. You're behaving as stupidly, childishly, and dishonestly as always, Markadelphia.
The Bachmann "quote" is a fabrication from a fucking parody site
Provide me the link and I will retract.
More than one of us, certainly myself, has said that a lot of that anti-Obama graphic is incorrect.
Who? And about which ones in the graphic? If I post a retraction about the Bachmann quote, I will provide a link to the Obama graphic and you can run through the list citing which are lies.
Nobody here ACTUALLY posted the Obama graphic. YOU on the other hand did post a graphic that has its legitimacy questioned. You cannot provide a cite for your very own fucking post.
Trying to turn that around to us is also dishonest. It's also a dick move.
What a lame fuckwit. The dopey-assed grpahic you're so proud of gives a fucking date for when she supposedly appeared on Fox News, it would be very easy to find some evidence that she was even on Fox that day.
But here's the link your supremely lazy ass and so-called intellect couldn't be bothered to find: Christians For Bachmann.
As for people, including myself, disagreeing with the Obama graphic, you can damned well search your own blog archives, you lazy-assed so-called teacher. I've already done that once and it was a thankless, stupefyingly worthless enterprise. Your dancing goalposts are a fool's errand. Naval gunfire support is required just to pin the damned things in place. You're as childish, stupid, and dishonest as ever. Better double up on your therapy sessions.
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Wow? That's all you have to say?
Your mind may think that it's all kind of self explanatory - but if you want me to get your point you are going to have to give a little more explanation.
You got a problem with the concept or the execution, for example.
I guess I was just stunned speechless when I read this at the complete lack of thought put into such an idea. I keep thinking that nothing the Right says anymore surprises me and then they always do.
.....?
Still waiting for something that tells me what you are talking about.
I got, with the one word comment, that you were speechless.
Now you say you're speechless because of a 'complete lack of thought'. But that still doesn't tell me anything about what you consider to be a lack of thought and why......particularly why.
The fact that you haven't gotten it sadly speaks volumes.
I don't want to live in a world of roaming militias and ordinary citizens (without training and psychological evaluations) enforcing the law...or what they think is the law. We used to have this, remember? It didn't work out very well.
Further, her complete ignorance of all the other crimes that police handle (drunk driving, shoplifting, fraud) is seriously stunning. In short, she's a fucking moron.
In short, she's a fucking moron.
That must explain your fascination with her.
he fact that you haven't gotten it sadly speaks volumes.
That I don't get what you have an issue with speaks volumes? Can I fucking ask you to explain your position without a personal attack? That I don't get.....
So, where do the police actually get their authority to enforce the law?
Hmm...I get the feeling we are going down a path where I answer a bunch of questions and you offer nothing in rebuttal. I answer this one and then you respond with whether or not you agree with her statement and why. Otherwise, forget it. You don't get to use that tactic anymore. Focus specifically on what you would do differently and how it would work, offering evidence.
The police get their authority to enforce the law from us, GD. We elect officials to make the law that the police enforce. In Michele Bachmann's world, everyone would make up their own law and somehow magically protect themselves from drunken drivers with a gun.
What I'm trying to figure out, Mark, is what I asked you the FIRST time. Exactly what you have an issue with - the concept or the execution.
As you've answered with very little detail, I still don't know.
But when you say this: "everyone would make up their own law". That only brings up more questions. I really do not see anywhere in what Bachman said that would in any way make this statement accurate.
The police get their authority to enforce the law from us
Yes, and no. Their jobs are delegated by us. But one cannot delegate authority that one does not possess. So the people doing the delegating already have to possess that authority. Therefore - in concept - the people have the authority to do EXACTLY what Bachman proposes.
Of course there is the issue of actually verifying that this quote is even true.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023458105
Do you have a cite?
My source was the same as his so I will retract it once he does.
Still, true or false, it is pretty much the libertarian fantasy, no?
As you've answered with very little detail, I still don't know.
Ah, yes, another bullshit statement meant to frustrate me and cause me to write more things that you can make dickish comments about without actually offering anything of your own.
I really do not see anywhere in what Bachman said that would in any way make this statement accurate.
So how do you think such a thing would all play out?
My source was the same as his so I will retract it once he does.
So it could be a total fucking lie and you don't care? That makes sense.
Ah, yes, another bullshit statement meant to frustrate me and cause me to write more things that you can make dickish comments about without actually offering anything of your own.
Because you are the one making bullshit condescending comments without explaining what the fuck you are condescending to. If I actually knew what kind of bullshit your bullshit was referring to I could offer something of my own to counter your bullshit.
So how do you think such a thing would all play out?
Concept or execution Mark. Simple question.
But since 'playing out' seems to be a execution level comment, let's put something straight.
everyone would make up their own law
The law already exists. No need to make anything up. Among those existing laws are these things called 'citizens arrest', in which the people can arrest a person for committing a crime. Hmmmm. Imagine that.
So it could be a total fucking lie and you don't care? That makes sense.
At this point we don't know one way or the other. If it turns out to be false, I will retract. And you are one talk...
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/
I can assure you that I will admit error before you guys do on this one...already proven to be half truths or out and out lies.
Among those existing laws are these things called 'citizens arrest',
So, it would be up to citizens to interpret the law. I know I wouldn't want any fucking oathkeepers telling me what the law was or was not. It would be even worse for you. Imagine all of the things liberals would force you to do.
Didn't think about that, did you?:)
The law already allows it. We aren't talking a hypothetical. You getting harassed right now?
Didn't think so.
Oh, and it's is a lie right now without a cite.
Fuck you, Markadelphi-ass. More than one of us, certainly myself, has said that a lot of that anti-Obama graphic is incorrect. And even though his college reccords aren't "sealed" by court order, they've certainly not been made public, either, so they're effectively sealed by Obama. It's not that big a deal to me, though it's slightly unusual in recent election cycles. When someone's touted as real brainiac by his supporters, I generally want to see something to back it up. Especially when we heard endlessly about what a dunce G.W. was, especially when compared to Gore and Kerry, and then that turned out to be, umm, incorrect would the polite word. None of them did that well in school (but at least Bush didn't flunk out of divinity school).
The Bachmann "quote" is a fabrication from a fucking parody site. Maybe we could quote stuff from an Onion article (without sourcing it) and then demand you prove it didn't happen. While we insist that maybe it did. You're behaving as stupidly, childishly, and dishonestly as always, Markadelphia.
In other words, O King of Dopey Graphics, you might consider the wise words of Abraham Lincoln.
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The Bachmann "quote" is a fabrication from a fucking parody site
Provide me the link and I will retract.
More than one of us, certainly myself, has said that a lot of that anti-Obama graphic is incorrect.
Who? And about which ones in the graphic? If I post a retraction about the Bachmann quote, I will provide a link to the Obama graphic and you can run through the list citing which are lies.
Hey Mr. dishonest asshole,
Nobody here ACTUALLY posted the Obama graphic. YOU on the other hand did post a graphic that has its legitimacy questioned. You cannot provide a cite for your very own fucking post.
Trying to turn that around to us is also dishonest. It's also a dick move.
Don't be a fucking dishonest asshole dick.
What a lame fuckwit. The dopey-assed grpahic you're so proud of gives a fucking date for when she supposedly appeared on Fox News, it would be very easy to find some evidence that she was even on Fox that day.
But here's the link your supremely lazy ass and so-called intellect couldn't be bothered to find: Christians For Bachmann.
As for people, including myself, disagreeing with the Obama graphic, you can damned well search your own blog archives, you lazy-assed so-called teacher. I've already done that once and it was a thankless, stupefyingly worthless enterprise. Your dancing goalposts are a fool's errand. Naval gunfire support is required just to pin the damned things in place. You're as childish, stupid, and dishonest as ever. Better double up on your therapy sessions.
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